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Season 3: Round 3

Bryan plays Dark Elves, no event
Steve Groom plays High Elves, chooses All or Nothing, challenges Chuck.
Chris plays Warriors of Chaos, chooses disaster vs. Bryan
Peter plays Orks and Goblins, no event.
Chuck plays Ogre Kingdoms, chooses Land Grab, challenges Noel/Conner.
Nate plays Hordes of Chaos, chooses Diplomacy vs. Chuck, challenges Jason.
Jason plays Dwarfs, chooses fools gold vs. Bryan, challenges Chris Cloud.
Drew plays Dwarfs, chooses Elite Army, challenges Chris Cloud.
Noel/Conner play Scaven, no event, challenges Pete.
Steve Drop plays Wood Elves, chooses building boom, challenges Bryan.
Harrison plays Empire, chooses scouts, challenges Bryan.

Bryan has the largest empire, and gets 100 extra points this round.

Income

Bryan: 25 gold. spent 21, 0 left.
Steve Groom: 189 gold. 52 spent, 137 left
Chris: 110 gold.
Pete: 70 gold. 69 spent, 1 left.
Chuck: 179 gold. 38 spent, 141 left.
Nate: 150 gold. 150 spent, 0 left
Jason: 110 gold. 91 spent, 19 left.
Drew: 70 gold. 70 used, 0 left
Noel/Conner: 110 gold. 110 spent.
Drop: 20 gold. 15 spent, 5 left.

Here are the games.

Steve Groom vs. Chuck: Steve Groom wins, The Big M.
Chuck vs. Noel/Conner: Noel/Conner win, The Big M.
Nate vs. Jason: Draw
Chris vs. Jason: Jason wins Solid Victory.
Chris vs. Drew: Chris wins, marginal victory
Noel/Conner vs. Pete: Draw
Bryan vs. Harrison and Drop. Bryan wins, the Big M.

I hope that is everything...
Jason
Blood Bowl Wizard

Who is going to play in the team battle?

Jason
Blood Bowl Wizard

Chris and I played. The Dwarfs won a Solid Victory.
Pete

Rats vs. Orcs

Noel and I will be playing our Mighty Empires match this evening at 6:30 at CHG if anyone is interested in watching.

1500 points of Rats vs. Orcs (with some gobbos who we kick around).

-Peter
Groomie

Hopefully there will be no drawn combats and no super jezzails.
Nipponb

Well Pete and I played to a draw last night.  It was an interesting game full of some bad luck on both sides.  I used 50g in the match.  I am not sure how much Pete used, I just remember it was most of it.

We did have one question through about one of the weapons I have.  The weeping blade does D3 wounds after wounding.  When being used against a unit do you only get the number of times the blade hit or do you get all the wounds?  I will be honest I have always played it as the wounds carry over as it was described in the old system as the character is just that cool he is wading in doing massive damage with his magic weapon.  So in effect the character attacks the unit and can do more damage than number of hits he does.

Pete is of the opinion that you can only get the D3 wounds on models with multiple wounds.  I understand where he is coming from on this but, I know it used to be the other way in the old system.  I also counter with an arguement about how the damage is going to be worked out then.  If you are saying only the number of hits can do wounds then there should only be armor saves for the number of hits not the number of wounds the weapon does.  So if there is an armor save that fails you then apply the D3 wounds to multi-wound models with no saving throw?  I personally don't think it can be both ways.  Either you get saves cause the wounds are actually hits or you get to save the hits that wound and suffer unsaveable wounds later.

We would just like some input as to what other people have been doing.  Nate said he has been playing the multi-wounding weapons like me for a long time as well.  So this might be something that needs to be added to end of the season rules questions.

Thanks,
Noel

P.S. I hope this makes sense as it is stupid early and I am getting ready to make a 12 hour drive.
Sand

I a noob to the game so I could be wrong BUT in the past when I hit a one wound modle with a D3 damage weapon I didn't carry the extra wounds over into the rest of the unit.  So I've been playing one hit = one kill.
Groomie

Here is how it works for other weapons that do multiple wounds:

Model is wounded and rolls their relevant saves.

After all saves are rolled, then the weapon does d3 wounds for each failed set of saves.  These wounds cannot be saved by Regeneration, Ward, Armor, or any other save unless their is a rule that specifies otherwise.

For Example:
Tyrion has 1+ Armor Save, Regeneration, and a 4+ Ward save.  He is hit by your weapon 3 times.  He rolls all his saves for each wound.  After this, he has suffered 1 wound from your weapon.  You would then roll a d3 to determine how many wounds that unsaved wound actually inflicts.

The wording for most armies that have weapons like this is: Each unsaved wound becomes d3 (or whatever) wounds.  When a model has only one wound you don't roll.

Of course, it wouldn't be a GW game without an exception, and that is Challenges.  Overkill is all about wounds inflicted, and it ignores rules pertaining to inflicting more than one wound on a one wound model.  This means that your sword in a challenge would be pretty good.

See page 31 of the WFB rulebook for Multiple Wound Hits and page 76 for Challenges.



Edited to add example
Pete

I spent 69 gold of 70 in my draw with Noel.

It was a good game. I feel that the victory shifted back and forth between both armies throughout the battle.

-Peter
Trius

It was a good game to watch.  Noel was dead in the water by turn three and then things just turned around.
Nipponb

Conner and I played Chuck last night.  It went badly for the Chuck.  We massacred him.  We used the last 60g of our gold on this fight and I believe Chuck used 16 or so.  hordes win the day for us, that and poisoned throwing stars.

Noel
Sand

I got the big M.  I spent 19 gold.
Groomie

Chuck's bad luck continued.  The High Elves pulled off a Massacre while only losing 7 models.  My chariot's lions feasted on the Ogre general on turn 5.  I spent 52 gold on the battle.
Blood Bowl Wizard

Nate and I played to a draw.

Nate, did you spend any gold?

Knox
Blood Bowl Wizard

There are three games left. Harrison vs. Bryan, Drop vs. Bryan, and Drew vs. Chris. Since it looks like these games are not going to be done by Sunday, we should probably wait another week to have our next meeting.

Jason
wrekka

Drew and I are playing Saturday at 1pm.
vegeta7913

Well, i''ll be winning on Saturday...chris will be crying like a little girlie man.
wrekka

vegeta7913 wrote:
Well, i''ll be winning on Saturday...chris will be crying like a little girlie man.

Ha! Drew's dwarfs will be tripping over their own beards trying to get away from me... Right after I get shot by 27 cannons. Silly "elite" army.
vegeta7913

chris took a marginal victory, iused all my gold
Trius

I also used all my gold
Blood Bowl Wizard

Chris, did you use any of your gold?

Knox
drop?

Jason, im using 15 of my 20 gold.
Bryan_Lord

I used 21 of my 25 gold
vegeta7913

i don't think chris used any of his gold
Blood Bowl Wizard

All of the games have been played. Let's plan for a meeting on Sunday at 1:00.

Knox
wrekka

I didn't use any gold
wogit460

Bryan massacred Drop and I in almost every sense of the word.
Blood Bowl Wizard

Well, I hope to make Bryan's hydra cry next week.

Knox
Bryan_Lord

My hydra didn't win anything...Harrisons dice were Dark Elf sympathisers
drop?

the real winners of the game were my 10 man dryad unit killing 3 times its point cost in people and only losing 7 trees. 4 toughness vs elves = win.
Sand

Big H got a MV from me.  I used 115 of my gold.  It was probably the most fun I've had playing WFB so far.
wrekka

Harrison!

Sorry I couldn't make it yesterday.  I want to play this week.  When are you available?  How many points?

Kthx.
wogit460

Well, I would prefer not to play on weekdays, and this weekend I have my Senior Prom, so Saturday I have to get all dolled up, should take all day, they have alot of work.  And Sunday I work, so next Saturday would work unless you need to play on a weekday.  We could work something out, I would just prefer not to.

And I echo Chuck's sentiment of fun.  It was close and it was really nice to see a game not crumble before your eyes.  I think I'll try to win some more now...
Sand

Can I go to your prom?
wrekka

Harrison - that's cool.  This weekend is bad for me too.. I have family coming to town.  Next weekend sounds awesome.  Saturday @ 1pm?  How many points?
wogit460

1500 points is about where I max out, so that.

And Chuck, I would say yes but I'm fairly sure that you wouldn't be able to find a dress anywhere...
Groomie

There is a week 4 thread (finally) you may want to make sure the results you posted here are showing up there, too.

Chuck is about the only person that could rest their head on your shoulder during a slow dance, Harrison.  I wouldn't be to quick to pass that up!
wrekka

wogit460 wrote:
1500 points is about where I max out, so that.

And Chuck, I would say yes but I'm fairly sure that you wouldn't be able to find a dress anywhere...


1500 points it is!
Sand

hmmm wife just dug up some funny pictures of me in a dress the other day...
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