TheEyes100
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Fortified Camp P&L RuleThis one was handled a while back on the boards, but since we had a discussion about it tonight in our games... unless I read the multiple rulings wrong the bottom line stands at "Reactions are not effected by the rules of Presence and Location." The only time they are is when they constrain themselves.... such as with Duty that states the peep must be at the same location. So, as for Fortified Camp you can attach a given attachment to any personality at any location regardless of where that personality is located. I know... with the whole 'target' word being on there it makes you think that P&L have to be followed but that it is originating from a Reaction that doesn't constrain itself P&L don't matter at all.
On side notes, I haven't been able to find a ruling on Hogai or if Takeko's trait will trigger or not before she is killed by an action. I'll chase down those later.
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PlaguedOne
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I'm not sure what you're asking about Hogai. Yes, his Reaction will negate his destruction. Just the first time each turn, though. It's an action, so it is limited to once per turn by default.
Are you asking about the interaction between Hogai's Reaction and the Reaction on Fortified Camp (assuming Hogai is being destroyed while he has an attachment)? If so, no. Fortified Camp will not do anything since you are negating its trigger. Hogai's reaction comes "before" destruction. Fortified Camp comes "after".
Matsu Takeko Exp's trait cannot trigger if she is herself being destroyed. Because at the point "after another player's Battle action resolves", she would be in the discard pile and nobody would be opposing her. (also, triggered traits don't trigger on cards out of play unless they say so)
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TheEyes100
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Yeah, the question on Hogai is if he can constantly dihonor himself even though dishonored already. I'm sure it works that way, but maybe someone can explain this to me:
Why can Gov's Courts work the way it does (ie you cannot bow an already bowed peep.... even though it's not in the cost portion of the card) yet Hogai can infinately dishonor himself?
The questions weren't in relation to one another, just all happened to come up in the same game.
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PlaguedOne
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Yes, Hogai can continue to use his Reaction if dishonored because the dishonoring is an effect which just fails. It's not a cost.
Governor's Court says the other player "may bow one of his Personalities". You cannot bow an already bowed card. No change would occur. And Governor's Court just looks to see if somebody was bowed by its own action. So if they choose not to or cannot (because they don't have any Personalities in play or all of their Personalities are already bowed), then it grants the honor.
Even if you could choose to bow an already bowed personality, Governor's Court would see that he did not become bowed, and still grant the honor.
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